The Leader’s Way
The Leader's Way is a podcast for people who aren't ready to give up on the world. Hosted by Dr. Brandon Nappi, Executive Director of Leadership and Lecturer in Preaching at Yale Divinity School, the series explores conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs working at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology.
Featuring occasional guest hosts from the Berkeley Divinity School at Yale community, each episode examines how faith, purpose, and wisdom can shape leadership in a complex and changing world.
The podcast is produced by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale, and has featured more than 90 conversations with thought leaders across disciplines.
The Leader's Way is a podcast for people who aren't ready to give up on the world. Hosted by Dr. Brandon Nappi, Executive Director of Leadership and Lecturer in Preaching at Yale Divinity School, the series explores conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs working at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology.
Featuring occasional guest hosts from the Berkeley Divinity School at Yale community, each episode examines how faith, purpose, and wisdom can shape leadership in a complex and changing world.
The podcast is produced by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale, and has featured more than 90 conversations with thought leaders across disciplines.

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Join an audio pilgrimage into the heart of human thriving and the spiritual leadership needed to create a world where all of us can come fully alive. The Leader’s Way Podcast convenes inspiring conversation at the intersection of spirituality, innovation, leadership, and transformation from Berkeley Divinity School at Yale. We invite deep reflection on what matters most in life by catalyzing innovative action for justice, healing, and compassion. We explore emerging spiritual movements and celebrate visionary leadership in its countless disruptive expressions—in Church and religious institutions, in local communities, and in nonprofits, government, universities, popular culture, and the arts.
Episodes

50 minutes ago
94: Culty with Sarah Edmondson
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50 minutes ago
51 min
In this Within episode, Brandon has a deep conversation with Sarah Edmondson, author and co-host of A Little Bit Culty. Together, they explore what it means to look honestly at ourselves, recognize red flags in high-control situations and groups, and identify the green flags that help us recognize healthy communities and constructive relationships. Through this conversation, they reflect on how we can build greater self-awareness and discern the difference between groups that empower us and those that seek to control us.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Sarah Edmondson
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
50 minutes ago
51 min

Oct 19, 2026
93: Beyond Wellness with Liz Bucar
Oct 19, 2026
Oct 19, 2026
1 hr 3 min
In this Within episode, Brandon has a conversation with Liz Bucar, the author ofBeyond Wellness: How Restoring the Religious Roots of Spiritual Practices Can Heal Us. Theirconversation invites those who may identify as spiritual but not religious to take the religiouscontext of spiritual practices more seriously. They explore the deeper interrelationship betweenspirituality and religion. The conversation encourages us to consider how understanding thereligious roots of spiritual practices can deepen the way we understand and experiencespirituality today.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Liz Bucar
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Oct 19, 2026
1 hr 3 min

Oct 12, 2026
Oct 12, 2026
1 hr 5 min
In this Within episode Brandon has a conversation with Rhonda Magee: the authorof: The Inner Work of Racial Justice: Healing Ourselves and Transforming Our CommunitiesThrough Mindfulness. They discuss how to use contemplative practice as a tool for racial healing.
They inquire when Spiritual practice is simply interior, then does it actually have anythingimportant to say to the pressing needs of our time like the urgent questions of war and violenceand racism and greed?
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Rhonda Magee
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Oct 12, 2026
1 hr 5 min

Oct 5, 2026
Oct 5, 2026
48 min
In this Within episode, Brandon speaks with Hitendra Wadhwa, the author of Inner Mastery, Outer Impact: How Your Five Core Energies Hold the Key to Success. They discuss the class Wadhwa teaches at Columbia Business School and how his pedagogical approach is to turn his students from the outer acquisition of knowledge into the inner awakening of the soul.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Hitendra Wadhwa
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Oct 5, 2026
48 min

May 18, 2026
90: Words Matter with Austin Carty
May 18, 2026
May 18, 2026
59 min
Austin Carty is a writer and pastor of Boulevard Baptist Church in Anderson, South Carolina. Before becoming a pastor, he taught high school English, and while teaching Tolstoy, heard the first call to ministry. As a minister, he continues to immerse himself in stories and words that speak to the human condition and inform how he preaches the Gospel. Austin is the author of High Points and Lows: Life, Faith, and Figuring It All Out and The Pastor’s Bookshelf: Why Reading Matters for Ministry, which received the 2023 Christianity Today Award of Merit and was named Book of the Year by Preaching magazine. In this episode of the Leader’s Way, Brandon talks with Austin about his journey to the pulpit and his new book, Some of the Words Are Theirs: The Art of Writing and Living a Sermon, which explores the ways that careful attention to the craft of writing a sermon—like careful attention to living a meaningful life—leads to greater self-awareness and humility.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Austin Carty
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
May 18, 2026
59 min

May 11, 2026
89: Digital Evangelism with Elizabeth Riley
May 11, 2026
May 11, 2026
56 min
The Rev'd Elizabeth Riley is a priest and author with a vibrant digital presence on social media platforms, particularly TikTok, where she shares everything from the Good News of the Gospel to “rage prayers." Her book, Rage Prayers, is about turning your pent-up frustrations, daily annoyances, and righteous anger into a raw and transformative dialogue with a higher power who's ready to listen. As a Fellow with the Episcopal Church Foundation, Elizabeth is especially interested in exploring ministry through digital evangelism and how digital engagement can lead to more incarnational experiences of God.
Welcome to The Leader’s Way, a podcast for people who are not ready to give up on the world. We’re glad you’re here!
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Elizabeth Riley
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
May 11, 2026
56 min

May 4, 2026
88: Revolution of the Soul with Seane Corn
May 4, 2026
May 4, 2026
1 hr 6 min
Seane Corn is an internationally-acclaimed yoga teacher, author, and public speaker who has been at the forefront of yoga, activism, and community service for 30+ years. Known for her social activism and impassioned teaching style, Seane is raw, honest, articulate, and spiritually inspired in her self-expression.
Welcome to Within, a contemplative segment of The Leader’s Way Podcast that explores the convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conversations across traditions about personal and collective transformation.
Speaking with Leader’s Way host Brandon Nappi, Seane Corn talks about the importance of integrating one's personal faith and spirituality with the work of justice in the world. For Seane, yoga inspires and informs her activism on to global issues, including social justice, sex trafficking, HIV/AIDS awareness, and animal rights. Her first book Revolution of the Soul was published in Fall 2019. Her online program, Align With Source, has a global reach of thousands and has been a touchstone of community support.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Seane Corn
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
May 4, 2026
1 hr 6 min

Apr 27, 2026
87: On Happiness with Laurie Santos
Apr 27, 2026
Apr 27, 2026
57 min
Laurie Santos is host of The Happiness Lab podcast and professor at Yale, where she teaches Psychology and the Good Life, Yale’s most popular course in over 300 years, with almost one out of four students enrolled.
Laurie is an expert on the science of happiness and the ways in which our minds lie to us about what makes us happy. In this episode of The Leader’s Way, host Brandon Nappi talks with Laurie about how science can help us move toward happiness by offering evidence-based data about behaviors and practices that lead to human flourishing. A lot of these things we already know in our bodies and in our lives: It’s not what you believe, it’s what you do. Connection, relationships, engaging in service, leaning into contemplation and reflection and harnessing our behaviors and emotions can boost happiness. Tune in to learn more!
Host: Brandon Nappi Guest: Laurie Santos
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Apr 27, 2026
57 min






