The Leader’s Way
This podcast is hosted by Executive Director of Leadership Dr. Brandon Nappi ’01 MDiv and guest hosts Misty Krasawski ’26 MDiv and Whitney Kimball Coe ’26 MDiv. It is brought to you by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale.
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Join an audio pilgrimage into the heart of human thriving and the spiritual leadership needed to create a world where all of us can come fully alive. The Leader’s Way Podcast convenes inspiring conversation at the intersection of spirituality, innovation, leadership, and transformation from Berkeley Divinity School at Yale. We invite deep reflection on what matters most in life by catalyzing innovative action for justice, healing, and compassion. We explore emerging spiritual movements and celebrate visionary leadership in its countless disruptive expressions—in Church and religious institutions, in local communities, and in nonprofits, government, universities, popular culture, and the arts.
Episodes
Monday May 12, 2025
Monday May 12, 2025
Dean Andrew McGowan joins us to further unpack shifting dynamics, changing landscapes, and the future after addressing the topic at the Episcopal Parish Network (EPN) conference. McGowan describes his observations of Australian secularization and how he sees similar dynamics arising in the United States. We talk about why church attendance is changing, the difference between hope and optimism, and consumer capitalism's effect on church dynamics. After a rich conversation, we play our signature game, Holy Cow!, and learn McGowan's opinion on THE best bread for the Eucharist.
See the EPN talk here: https://youtu.be/5MJmTGvn6y4?si=HyfwtXe_nPI0Nmc5
Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black
Guest: Andrew McGowan
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E. Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
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Monday May 05, 2025
Monday May 05, 2025
THE Father Lizzie is back on The Leader's Way podcast, talking about her new devotional God Didn't Make Us to Hate Us. We talk about the alternative to "billboard Christianity" and how an expansive, inclusive God affects individual spirituality and corporate worship in church.
Finally, the Golden Retriever Games are back, baby. Stay 'till the end for "Holy or Horror?"
https://bookshop.org/contributors/lizzie-mcmanus-dail
Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black
Guest: Lizzie McManus-Dail
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E. Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Yale Divinity School Professor Teresa Morgan shares her expertise about the Greek word “pistis,” often translated in the New Testament as “faith.” The conversation revolves around faith, trust, and faithfulness and touches on the importance of a nuanced understanding of atonement theology. Brandon challenges Morgan and Black to “Gregory or Gregory?” Tune in for an enlightening discussion that bridges the gap between ancient texts and modern faith.
Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black
Guest: Teresa Morgan
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E. Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Monday Apr 07, 2025
Monday Apr 07, 2025
The Rev'd John Burruss (The Leader's Way ’23 Fellow) and the Rev'd Mary Bea Sullivan join hosts Hannah Black and Brandon Nappi to tell the story of the Threshold Center, a vibrant space designed to address loneliness and foster connection in Birmingham, Alabama. Born from a tragic event in the life of St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, the Threshold Center nurtures well-being and connection by engaging practices of the heart, body, and imagination through innovative programs like trauma-informed yoga, listening as an act of love, and peace through poetry. This episode offers rich insights into the power of collaboration, creativity, and radical hospitality.
https://www.thethresholdcenter.org/
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Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black Guests: The Rev'd John Burruss and the Rev'd Mary Bea Sullivan
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E. Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Monday Mar 24, 2025
Monday Mar 24, 2025
Bishop Graham Kings, Honorary Assistant Bishop in the Diocese of Ely and Research Associate of the Cambridge Centre for Christianity Worldwide, joins us to delve into the possibilities of engaging creativity in ministry. We discuss the power of collaboration with artists, crafting liturgical celebrations, his project on women in the Bible, how to start a Beer and Theology gathering, traveling from Oxford to Cambridge by camel, a surprise meeting with Prince Philip and Desmond Tutu in 1999, and the centrality of mission.
Host: Hannah Black
Guest: Bishop Graham Kings
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
Monday Mar 10, 2025
Monday Mar 10, 2025
On Being host Krista Tippett reflects on her career and tells stories never before heard on air. She contemplates her grandfather's spirituality, what she was looking for when she decided to come to Yale Divinity School, the need she saw for intelligent public conversation about spirituality and religion, and the birth story of Speaking of Faith (later On Being) during the Cold War. We consider how religious traditions can open up to the world's pain and, finally, encourage imaginative, muscular hope.
Hosts: Brandon Nappi and Hannah Black
Guest: Krista Tippett
Production: Goodchild Media
Music: Wayfaring Stranger, Theodicy Jazz Collective
Art: E. Landino
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
Monday Feb 24, 2025
Monday Feb 24, 2025
The Rev'd Dr. Jesse Zink, Principal at Montreal Diocesan Theological College, joins us to discuss living faithfully in our fast-paced, crisis-shaped world. We talk about his new book, Faithful, Creative, Hopeful: Fifteen Theses for Christians in a Crisis-Shaped World, and we reflect on insights like fostering a culture of contentment and enoughness amidst the prevailing ethos of "more."
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Monday Feb 10, 2025
The Very Rev. Dr. Michael Battle shares insights from the first volume, "Faith," in the new series Conversations in Global Anglican Theology. He helps us explore the fascinating transition of the Anglican Church from being the church of the establishment to becoming the church of advocacy. He also shares his insights on faith, culture, activism, and mysticism within the global Anglican Communion