The Leader’s Way
This podcast is hosted by Executive Director of Leadership Dr. Brandon Nappi ’01 MDiv and guest hosts Misty Krasawski ’26 MDiv and Whitney Kimball Coe ’26 MDiv. It is brought to you by Berkeley Divinity School, the Episcopal seminary at Yale.

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Join an audio pilgrimage into the heart of human thriving and the spiritual leadership needed to create a world where all of us can come fully alive. The Leader’s Way Podcast convenes inspiring conversation at the intersection of spirituality, innovation, leadership, and transformation from Berkeley Divinity School at Yale. We invite deep reflection on what matters most in life by catalyzing innovative action for justice, healing, and compassion. We explore emerging spiritual movements and celebrate visionary leadership in its countless disruptive expressions—in Church and religious institutions, in local communities, and in nonprofits, government, universities, popular culture, and the arts.
Episodes

Monday Aug 19, 2024
30: A Space of Grace at the Church of the Presidents with Rob Fisher
Monday Aug 19, 2024
Monday Aug 19, 2024
The Rev’d Rob Fisher is Rector of St. John’s Lafayette Square, known as the “Church of the Presidents.” He joins us to talk about his vocation story and what it’s like to be the priest at a church where people’s lives and careers revolve around politics. Join us next week for part 2, where Fisher discusses what it was like to be the rector of St. John’s during the events of 2020.
Hosts: Brandon Nappi, DMin and Hannah Black, PhD
Guest: The Rev’d Rob Fisher
See show notes at berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast

Monday Aug 12, 2024
29: Race and the Christian Imagination with Willie Jennings
Monday Aug 12, 2024
Monday Aug 12, 2024
Yale Professor Willie Jennings joins us to talk about the relationship between race and theology. We break down how this relationship manifests in Zionism, supercessionism, and Christian nationalism. We break these ideas down to understand where they have come from and what they are. We talk about the bizarreness of being introduced to academic theology, and we consider the ways in which theology can be harmful or lifegiving.

Monday Jul 29, 2024
28: Circle of Hope with Eliza Griswold
Monday Jul 29, 2024
Monday Jul 29, 2024
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Eliza Griswold joins us to talk about her new book Circle of Hope, a compelling and honest portrait of a progressive evangelical church. Griswold’s immersive journalism brings into focus how one church was impacted by division brought about by events like the pandemic and the Black Lives Matter movement.

Monday Jul 15, 2024
27: Colonialism and Christianity with Kwok Pui Lan
Monday Jul 15, 2024
Monday Jul 15, 2024
Dr. Kwok Pui Lan joins us to share wisdom from her 2023 book The Anglican Tradition from a Postcolonial Perspective. We talk about what a postcolonial perspective is and how it can color our thinking on topics from the history and identity of the Anglican Church to the ecological crisis and more.

Monday Jul 01, 2024
26: Good Grief with Sarah Condon
Monday Jul 01, 2024
Monday Jul 01, 2024
The Rev’d Sarah Condon, co-host of Mockingcast, joins Hannah to talk about the twists and turns of life…in particular, vocation and grief.

Monday Jun 17, 2024
25: The Holy Spirit and the Heart with Simeon Zahl
Monday Jun 17, 2024
Monday Jun 17, 2024
Simeon Zahl, Professor of Christian Theology at the University of Cambridge, joins us to talk about the Holy Spirit. Our conversation ranges from who the Holy Spirit is to how we understand Christian experience to how the Book of Common Prayer is written with emotion in mind.

Monday Jun 03, 2024
24: Life After Doom with Brian McLaren
Monday Jun 03, 2024
Monday Jun 03, 2024
Brian McLaren joins us to share some of the riches from his new book Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart. The conversation names a feeling many of us have in our current world and helps us locate hope in the midst of it all.

Monday May 20, 2024
23: Ordinary Faith in Polarized Times with Amy Carr and Christine Helmer
Monday May 20, 2024
Monday May 20, 2024
Professors Amy Carr and Christine Helmer join Hannah to talk about their new, timely book, Ordinary Faith in Polarized Times: Justification and the Pursuit of Justice. We take a moment in this season leading up to the presidential election to discuss high-conflict times and how we can move toward good conflict. We talk about how Christians can create space for conversation because of their status of belonging due to justification. We discuss how Christians can listen to each other, discuss hot-button issues, and navigate difference.






